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Started by rickymooston, December 08, 2010, 02:55:28 AM

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rickymooston

I think, QM has a point.

Could this forum have a member group for those interested in NSFW content which is open to anybody to join or unjoin at any time?

I think some of the NSFW topics do build community but it sucks if members are turned off by it

With this solution, only people registered in this group will see said content, even if they are browsing posts of a user.
"Re: Why should any Black man have any respect for any cop?
Your question is racist. If the police behave badly then everyone should lose respect for those policemen.", Happy Evolute

Mooby the Golden Sock

Are we really in dire need of a porn group?
History shows again and again how nature points out the folly of man.--BÖC

Jezzebelle

It's so damn easy to say that life's so hard

Yog

I'm not sure we even have 12 Nova Scotia Wildlife Federation members on the forum Ricky.   ||think||

JadedPulse

Why do you want a No Sex For Women group, Moose?
Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is that quiet voice at the end of the day saying I will try again tomorrow.

leese

Ricky, would you be a member?
*

Honey Bunny

Not Seeing Finland Within

of course that'd be such a discriminatory group. i'm appalled!
*boops your nose*

Dadzilla

Needlework Scars For Women?
"I've learned that good-byes will always hurt, pictures will never replace having been there, memories good and bad will bring tears, and words can never replace feelings."

Yog

National Solo Flautist Week? Oh, I see where you're going with this.




And I want no part in your sick games.

Meat

Nut Sacks From Washington. Like me.
"Brilliant Meat!" +1 (composer)
"Amen Meat." (Former Believer)
"Like Meat said." (Francis)
"Not brilliant, Meat!" — Villanelle
"Damned right Meat." -Kusa

Dadzilla

Nomming Snacks From Woodlands?
"I've learned that good-byes will always hurt, pictures will never replace having been there, memories good and bad will bring tears, and words can never replace feelings."

JudoChop

Without meaning to sound funny moose, who the hell wants to be seen as a member of the mucky pics group? 'cept me and jay.
Abdullah: You got me wrong, I'm not the Eel, I'm the one trying to prove to you that Eels are not Atheists.

Jay

My mucky pics are not even that bad....and I would argue with anyone who would classify them as porn....well, except the ones I classified as explicit.

Ricky?  I ask you, is the naked human form that disturbing?  It is the most beautiful thing on earth, no matter your religious views...

Example...

If you believe in evolution...wouldn't you consider the human body a finely tuned machine.  The perfect machine if you will.  The culmination of millions of years of evolution.  Perfection in art at its finest.

If you believe in creation...wouldnt the human form be a representation of God's image?  Again...Perfection in art at its finest.

Is a naked human body something to be scared of?  I am not talking about porn...or explicit content.  If I wanted to look at that, I can find it without coming here.  But if you cant have a picture of a woman's nipple directly posted in the sexuality area under a thread labeled NSFW...isnt that kind of silly?

You can find naked pictures on wikipedia.... 

Examples...(naked humans depicted within the following links)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nudity
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nudity_in_art
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creation_of_Adam
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riace_bronzes

These are just a few examples...I could keep finding them if I wanted too...
I am me, if you dont like it, tough luck!

Cheshire

As long as NSFW is in the title, it should be fairly easy for anyone who does *not want* to see that content to avoid it.


Just like I can easily avoid any thread I see that's been created by Ricky ;)
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Jezzebelle

Quote from: Cheshire on December 08, 2010, 05:19:39 PM
As long as NSFW is in the title, it should be fairly easy for anyone who does *not want* to see that content to avoid it.


Just like I can easily avoid any thread I see that's been created by Ricky ;)

*giggle*
It's so damn easy to say that life's so hard

energy

Nearly Safe For Work ?

just call it PORN ALERT !!!!
Never Argue With A Fool
They Will Drag You Down To Their Level, Then Beat You With Experience!

rickymooston

Quote from: Cheshire on December 08, 2010, 05:19:39 PM
As long as NSFW is in the title, it should be fairly easy for anyone who does *not want* to see that content to avoid it.


Just like I can easily avoid any thread I see that's been created by Ricky ;)

QM made the point that somebody browsing the post history of another user could accidentally get confronted by naughty pics. ||666||.

Its foolish to avoid reading the best threads on the forum but you are entitled to folly in a free country.  ||wink||


Quote from: Mooby the Golden Sock on December 08, 2010, 03:01:12 AM
Are we really in dire need of a porn group?

You allow threads with said content, I see that it is getting disruptive of the enjoyment of the forum for some people and that some of them might run away because it.

On the otherhand, some of the NSFW threads were kind of fun and many people also like them.

Quote from: jay799 on December 08, 2010, 03:30:01 PM
Ricky?  I ask you, is the naked human form that disturbing?  It is the most beautiful thing on earth, no matter your religious views...

Well, I'm not sure perceiving ugliness in the human form is a religious thing.

Quote from: jay799 on December 08, 2010, 03:30:01 PM
If you believe in evolution...wouldn't you consider the human body a finely tuned machine.  The perfect machine if you will.  The culmination of millions of years of evolution.  Perfection in art at its finest.

||666|| How long did it take the tape worm and the AIDs virus to evolve?

The c**kroach is one of the most successful creatures under evolution and I don't want to see it.

Quote
Is a naked human body something to be scared of?  I am not talking about porn...or explicit content.  If I wanted to look at that, I can find it without coming here.  But if you cant have a picture of a woman's nipple directly posted in the sexuality area under a thread labeled NSFW...isnt that kind of silly?

Under my proposal, the pic would still be on the forum but those wanting to totally opt out, wouldn't even see them when they looked at people's post history.

Quote
You can find naked pictures on wikipedia....  

In wikiepedia you can also find character assasinations of various forms too.
"Re: Why should any Black man have any respect for any cop?
Your question is racist. If the police behave badly then everyone should lose respect for those policemen.", Happy Evolute

Jay

Quote from: rickymooston on December 09, 2010, 04:53:26 AM
QM made the point that somebody browsing the post history of another user could accidentally get confronted by naughty pics. ||666||.
Qm makes a lot of points....rarely are they worth even acknowledging...

QuoteIts foolish to avoid reading the best threads on the forum but you are entitled to folly in a free country.  ||wink||
Yes...even in its tamed form, it seems like a very popular thread based on view count.


QuoteYou allow threads with said content, I see that it is getting disruptive of the enjoyment of the forum for some people and that some of them might run away because it.
Doubtful...Some just like to play a holier than thou card.  If you dont want to see NSFW content...dont open the thread.  This is not rocket science.

QuoteWell, I'm not sure perceiving ugliness in the human form is a religious thing.
You dodged the question.  What is there to be scared of the human form?

Quote
||666|| How long did it take the tape worm and the AIDs virus to evolve?

The c**kroach is one of the most successful creatures under evolution and I don't want to see it.
So you are equating a naked human form to Aids and c**kroaches....  ||Kerly||

Quote
In wikiepedia you can also find character assasinations of various forms too.
It is an encyclopedia.  Just as if you open an physical version of an encyclopedia you can see things that would be considered NSFW.

If you go over to Europe Ricky, there are topless women walking around the beach everyday.  There are topless pictures in newspapers.  There are topless pictures on the tv.

Nudity is nothing to be ashamed of.  Nudity is Art.  Relegating it the back room with a curtain pulled over it only solidifies the belief that nudity is immoral and wrong.  Which it is not!
I am me, if you dont like it, tough luck!

rickymooston

Quote from: jay799 on December 10, 2010, 03:51:37 PM
Doubtful...Some just like to play a holier than thou card.  If you dont want to see NSFW content...dont open the thread.  This is not rocket science.

QM's point was that when you browse a users posts, you can't do this; the browse user's posts button for a profile doesn't allow filtering content based on thread title
"Re: Why should any Black man have any respect for any cop?
Your question is racist. If the police behave badly then everyone should lose respect for those policemen.", Happy Evolute

JadedPulse

That may be a small part of his point, but the rest of it stems around the fact that he doesn't think this forum should be about anything other than God.
Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is that quiet voice at the end of the day saying I will try again tomorrow.

Jay

Jade is very close to the truth in my opinion.

QM would rather have this place be solely a religious forum.  No fun what so ever.

And that wasnt QM's original point, he came up with it as a justification to apply his morals onto the rest of us.  To cleanse us of our sins if you will...and to me, their is no sin in looking at the naked human form.

I ask again, what is so scary about the naked human form?  The nude form has been an artistic subject matter into antiquity, with the earliest currently known representations being found engraved into cave walls over 10,000 years ago....
I am me, if you dont like it, tough luck!

rickymooston

Quote from: JadedPulse on December 10, 2010, 08:32:15 PM
That may be a small part of his point, but the rest of it stems around the fact that he doesn't think this forum should be about anything other than God.

True but I don't think other stuff will lose too many users whereas I think either approach to the NSFW issue could
"Re: Why should any Black man have any respect for any cop?
Your question is racist. If the police behave badly then everyone should lose respect for those policemen.", Happy Evolute

rickymooston

Quote from: jay799 on December 10, 2010, 08:58:36 PM
I ask again, what is so scary about the naked human form?

nothing but posting extensively could lose members who might contrubute to our forum diversity.

Again, so,e users have posted from work and those users want fair warning rather than sexual content.
"Re: Why should any Black man have any respect for any cop?
Your question is racist. If the police behave badly then everyone should lose respect for those policemen.", Happy Evolute

JadedPulse

It was never a big deal until seka and QM flipped out about it.
Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is that quiet voice at the end of the day saying I will try again tomorrow.

Jay

True dat Jade.


Quoteand those users want fair warning rather than sexual content.
Ricky...and the threads should be labeled NSFW.  I dont have any problem with that.

I am me, if you dont like it, tough luck!

rickymooston

Quote from: JadedPulse on December 10, 2010, 09:04:26 PM
It was never a big deal until seka and QM flipped out about it.

Perhaps, QM accidentally came across an objectionable picture browsing somebody's profile ...?

What's nice about this forum is, when, in theory, the mods are open to dealing with said problems.

For the record, I do know a few members who log in a lunch or whatever in the office.

Just because you dislike QM's theology, doesn't mean, he doesn't have a point.

I am not proposing getting rid of NSFW content; I'm suggesting perhaps it should be in a place where those who want it can see it and those who don't don't have to, even if they browse posts
"Re: Why should any Black man have any respect for any cop?
Your question is racist. If the police behave badly then everyone should lose respect for those policemen.", Happy Evolute

JadedPulse

I get the whining about not wanting to see the pictures in someone's posting history, I'm not disputing it as a "valid point".

Most NSFW content already IS in a place where people can see it or not see it. It's usually always marked NSFW. I don't think the set up of another group is necessary or warranted.
Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is that quiet voice at the end of the day saying I will try again tomorrow.

rickymooston

Quote from: JadedPulse on December 10, 2010, 10:06:04 PM
I get the whining about not wanting to see the pictures in someone's posting history, I'm not disputing it as a "valid point".

If its a valid point, its not "whining".

For the record, MANY forum members have kids too. (Including members who post NSFW content sometimes.)

Quote
Most NSFW content already IS in a place where people can see it or not see it. It's usually always marked NSFW. I don't think the set up of another group is necessary or warranted.

Its one solution to the problem.

I don't deny other's exist; e.g., implement a forum mod where you can see people's posting history and turn off pictures. (Perhaps your post was suggesting this alternative).

"Re: Why should any Black man have any respect for any cop?
Your question is racist. If the police behave badly then everyone should lose respect for those policemen.", Happy Evolute

rickymooston

Quote from: JudoChop on December 08, 2010, 08:22:36 AM
Without meaning to sound funny moose, who the hell wants to be seen as a member of the mucky pics group? 'cept me and jay.

Who posts in NSFW threads?

Membership could be secret too.
"Re: Why should any Black man have any respect for any cop?
Your question is racist. If the police behave badly then everyone should lose respect for those policemen.", Happy Evolute

JadedPulse

Valid point or not, they are whining.
Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is that quiet voice at the end of the day saying I will try again tomorrow.

rickymooston

Quote from: JadedPulse on December 10, 2010, 10:15:43 PM
Valid point or not, they are whining.

Its an issue that should be addressed.

It would suck if somebody was browsing the forum with their seven year old kid in the room
browsing "jay's profile" (* Jay being a user with some good non-sex related posts*) when suddenly "VOMP"  ||shocked||
"Re: Why should any Black man have any respect for any cop?
Your question is racist. If the police behave badly then everyone should lose respect for those policemen.", Happy Evolute

JadedPulse

Yes. I UNDERSTAND THAT!!!!!! Did I make it clear enough for you that time, Moose?

I still think it's whining, the way that they are discussing it.
Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is that quiet voice at the end of the day saying I will try again tomorrow.

rickymooston

Quote from: JadedPulse on December 10, 2010, 10:32:32 PM
Yes. I UNDERSTAND THAT!!!!!! Did I make it clear enough for you that time, Moose?

Nobody else raised the issue and the mod's certainly haven't said anything about it..

Quote from: JadedPulse on December 10, 2010, 10:32:32 PM
I still think it's whining, the way that they are discussing it.

Perhaps anybody who disagrees with you is a whiner ...  ||troll||

I never said I agreed with the other (perfectly valid) points that QM also made. I disagree with those, but unlike yourself, i don't automatically call everybody who disagrees with me a "whiner".

For the record, I do think some of the NSFW is fun and that it has a place on the forum.

It didn't say that having a "group" is the only way to deal with this issue but its probably the easiest.

"Re: Why should any Black man have any respect for any cop?
Your question is racist. If the police behave badly then everyone should lose respect for those policemen.", Happy Evolute

JadedPulse

Lmao.

Things just fly RIGHT over your damn head.

Done trying to talk seriously with you.
Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is that quiet voice at the end of the day saying I will try again tomorrow.

rickymooston

Quote from: JadedPulse on December 10, 2010, 10:55:23 PM
Things just fly RIGHT over your damn head.

Perhaps, I've missed a post and you can show this "whining".

"Re: Why should any Black man have any respect for any cop?
Your question is racist. If the police behave badly then everyone should lose respect for those policemen.", Happy Evolute

JadedPulse

 I PERSONALLY THINK THEY HAVE BEEN WHINING. ME. MY OPINION. ME ME ME. NOT ANYBODY ELSE.

I don't really give two s**ts if you think they have been whining or not, because I do.
Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is that quiet voice at the end of the day saying I will try again tomorrow.

Jay

Quote from: rickymooston on December 10, 2010, 09:52:20 PM
I am not proposing getting rid of NSFW content; I'm suggesting perhaps it should be in a place where those who want it can see it and those who don't don't have to, even if they browse posts

Yes Ricky....let us validate that the nude human form is something that is disgusting and has to be hidden.  Lets setup a secret little room with a curtain in the front of it and make it appear that you are a pervert if you enter it...while people stand around and snicker and make snide comments about the pervert going into the back room.  
||Kerly||

Alternatively...why dont we setup a kiddie section.  That way all of the kiddie section can be filled with posts of LOLcats, and pictures of rainbows and dolphins.  And then the rest of the 90% of the posts on this site discussing adult content can be viewed by those that can judge what they want to see for themselves.

As an FYI....half of the posts in your Cloud Interpretation thread are NSFW and should be removed from this site if NSFW content needs to be hyperlinked.
I am me, if you dont like it, tough luck!

rickymooston



Quote from: jay799 on December 10, 2010, 11:10:09 PM
let us validate that the nude human form is something that is disgusting and has to be hidden.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indecent_exposure

Quote from: jay799 on December 10, 2010, 11:10:09 PM
As an FYI....half of the posts in your Cloud Interpretation thread are NSFW and should be removed from this site if NSFW content needs to be hyperlinked.

Images of clouds are clouds. If you see a d**k in a cloud, that's hardly "NSFW".

"Re: Why should any Black man have any respect for any cop?
Your question is racist. If the police behave badly then everyone should lose respect for those policemen.", Happy Evolute

Jay

Quote from: rickymooston on December 10, 2010, 11:28:56 PM
Quote from: jay799 on December 10, 2010, 11:10:09 PM
As an FYI....half of the posts in your Cloud Interpretation thread are NSFW and should be removed from this site if NSFW content needs to be hyperlinked.

Images of clouds are clouds. If you see a d**k in a cloud, that's hardly "NSFW".



Oh really?  well, your theory was put to the test on our old forum one day...and the goal was to recreate your thread over there.  Guess what, the whole thread got slashed by over moderation and then taken down completely for being NSFW....there was nothing in it except God's inkblots as you like to call them...

So it has to be a REAL d**k to be NSFW?  So pictures of dildos would not be NSFW?  Painting?  What if I drew a picture of a 'd**k' (your crude word not mine) in MS paint...

Quote from: rickymooston on December 10, 2010, 11:28:56 PM


Quote from: jay799 on December 10, 2010, 11:10:09 PM
let us validate that the nude human form is something that is disgusting and has to be hidden.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indecent_exposure
Indecent exposure?? c'mon.  Do you even read your own cites???  Does that apply in this case???  Wouldn't you have to be in front of me physically while I whip out frank and wave it around in your face for that to apply...

However, even from your own cite...Indecent Exposure varies widely from community to community.  In Afghanistan one could be arrested for it by exposing too much ankle...

But again...I give you this...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depictions_of_nudity
I am me, if you dont like it, tough luck!

rickymooston

Quote from: jay799 on December 10, 2010, 11:48:40 PM
well, your theory was put to the test on our old forum one day...and the goal was to recreate your thread over there.  Guess what, the whole thread got slashed by over moderation and then taken down completely for being NSFW....there was nothing in it except God's inkblots as you like to call them...

Quote from: rickymooston on July 30, 2010, 02:42:39 AM


You posted this and the mods there banned you as a porn spammer?

"Re: Why should any Black man have any respect for any cop?
Your question is racist. If the police behave badly then everyone should lose respect for those policemen.", Happy Evolute

Jay

I am me, if you dont like it, tough luck!

rickymooston

"Re: Why should any Black man have any respect for any cop?
Your question is racist. If the police behave badly then everyone should lose respect for those policemen.", Happy Evolute

Jay

Quoteseems like the mods there have very dirty minds. They must be a punch of pervs

Or they wear QM colored glasses...or the kind of glasses he would want the mods to wear here if he had his way.


It is Censorship Ricky...Plain and simple.  And what you are asking, by setting up a NSFW area is a validation of that censorship.  That "naughty" pics need to be relegated to some back room some where, hidden away.  That those that can admire the beauty in the human form...the purest and most beautiful thing on this planet....are perverts.

I am me, if you dont like it, tough luck!

rickymooston

Quote from: jay799 on December 11, 2010, 12:36:00 AM
It is Censorship Ricky...Plain and simple.

JustMyron seems to have explained it to you. What I find mind boggling is that you are the guy that runs your corporate filter; i.e., you are well aware that in some companies you could get in serious trouble.

Are you planning to show your 8 year old your thread? The reality is, in our society, nudity is interpreted differently than in other ones.

Quote from: jay799 on December 11, 2010, 12:36:00 AM
 And what you are asking, by setting up a NSFW area is a validation of that censorship.  

Its a recognition that, our target audience, which is broad, includes people who don't want to accidentally browse jay's posts and see mr. Slinky.

If you want to be a nudist, you are welcome to it. (I've got a 1000 threads on these sorts of topics on the sexuality tank by the way.)
"Re: Why should any Black man have any respect for any cop?
Your question is racist. If the police behave badly then everyone should lose respect for those policemen.", Happy Evolute

Jezzebelle

Quote from: rickymooston on December 11, 2010, 12:58:27 AM
Are you planning to show your 8 year old your thread?


this is not a forum for children, it's an adult forum... and we can all act like adults and have pics of bikinis and underwear.  if your employer is so strict that any sexual images are NSFW, you probably shouldnt be on a religious, adult forum at work in the first place.  or you can at least take the care to know that these adult things may be on the forum so don't go into the those threads or view post history at work.  there's no reason to shut down generally accepted SFW images, because one employer *may* object.  you need to take responsability for what you view at work, and be careful if they are that strict.  this is an adult forum and should be treated like one.

(as a sidenote- i would also like to say that i really dont understand why QM or seka got all wound up about this... neither or them even have jobs, QM is a student and seka is a SAHM.  so in all honestly this wasnt a debate about things being "safe" for work, it was a debate about them not wanting to see sexual images period)
It's so damn easy to say that life's so hard

rickymooston

Quote from: ZZ on December 11, 2010, 01:06:58 AM
this is not a forum for children

I agree but somebody can be browsing the forum when they are with their children. I'm concerned about this scenario where they browse somebody's profile and get more than they were looking for.

I'm 100% fine with the NSFW labled threads otherwise. It is only this scenario that QM brought up that concerns me.

Quote from: ZZ on December 11, 2010, 01:06:58 AM
, it's an adult forum...

This is not very obvious; look at the typical forum brawl.  ||wink||

Quote from: ZZ on December 11, 2010, 01:06:58 AM
and we can all act like adults

You act reasonably like an adult most of the time. That was one of the reasons that I had, (somewhere on the forum), suggested you (among other people) as an awesome candidate to be a mod.

Obviously many people don't act like adults.

Quote from: ZZ on December 11, 2010, 01:06:58 AM
and have pics of bikinis and underwear.  if your employer is so strict that any sexual images are NSFW, you probably shouldnt be on a religious, adult forum at work in the first place.

Co-workers rarely read what you browse on lunch break but if you have dirty pictures, they notice.

Quote from: ZZ on December 11, 2010, 01:06:58 AM
  or you can at least take the care to know that these adult things may be on the forum so don't go into the those threads or view post history at work.

I agree.

My concerns is, somebody not thinking, clicking "browse forum posts" and getting in trouble.


Quote from: ZZ on December 11, 2010, 01:06:58 AM
  there's no reason to shut down generally accepted SFW images

I didn't want to shut them down. I think they belong on the forum1, I just wanted a work around until we could avoid the "browse profile" problem.

1- Some people including myself think some of them are fun and stay away from them by avoiding threads with titles like NSFW
"Re: Why should any Black man have any respect for any cop?
Your question is racist. If the police behave badly then everyone should lose respect for those policemen.", Happy Evolute

Jay

Quote from: rickymooston on December 11, 2010, 12:58:27 AM
Quote from: jay799 on December 11, 2010, 12:36:00 AM
It is Censorship Ricky...Plain and simple.

JustMyron seems to have explained it to you. What I find mind boggling is that you are the guy that runs your corporate filter; i.e., you are well aware that in some companies you could get in serious trouble.

Are you planning to show your 8 year old your thread? The reality is, in our society, nudity is interpreted differently than in other ones.

Quote from: jay799 on December 11, 2010, 12:36:00 AM
 And what you are asking, by setting up a NSFW area is a validation of that censorship.  

Its a recognition that, our target audience, which is broad, includes people who don't want to accidentally browse jay's posts and see mr. Slinky.

If you want to be a nudist, you are welcome to it. (I've got a 1000 threads on these sorts of topics on the sexuality tank by the way.)

See Ricky....this is the BULLs**t that pissed me off so much from QM and Seka.  The question of my morals...and the implication that I want children to see porn!!!!  

This place is an adult forum, where adult things are discussed.  I wouldnt want an 8 year old to read probably about 80% of the written content on this website.

Maybe we need to shutdown the entire sexuality sub section of the forum as we discuss things I wouldnt want an 8 year old to read!!!  Maybe we should shut down the philosophy discussions, or the science discussions, or even the news discussions.

And if you want to try to attack my character by bringing in my job...go ahead, your on QM thin ice with me at this point.  My job entails that I know EXACTLY what is NSFW content.  And I have NO f**kING GOD DAMMNED PROBLEM with it ALLLLL being posted behind a label of Not Safe for f**king Work!!!!!  Whether the material is technically NSFW or Possibly NSFW.  But there should GOD DAMMED well be a place on an ADULT forum where the material can be shown!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I am me, if you dont like it, tough luck!

rickymooston

Quote from: jay799 on December 11, 2010, 01:21:45 AM
See Ricky....this is the BULLs**t that pissed me off so much from QM and Seka.  The question of my morals...and the implication that I want children to see porn!!!! 

I didn't question your morals, I gave you a scenario where children could accidentally see porn.

Let me say it again, for 1000th time.

1) Browse proile
2) Accidentally see dirty pictures
3) The person (an adult) browsing the forum, looking to discuss religion, see PICTURES which their kids, seeing "mom" on the computer see



Some people consider it "ok" for 8 year olds to see nudity (not explicit porn) and some don't. I was not judging either views.

http://www1.american.edu/ted/ice/pygmy.htm
"Re: Why should any Black man have any respect for any cop?
Your question is racist. If the police behave badly then everyone should lose respect for those policemen.", Happy Evolute

JadedPulse

But you ARE questioning his morals, by bringing up his job-among other things.
Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is that quiet voice at the end of the day saying I will try again tomorrow.

Jezzebelle

Quote from: rickymooston on December 11, 2010, 01:19:39 AM
Quote from: ZZ on December 11, 2010, 01:06:58 AM
this is not a forum for children

I agree but somebody can be browsing the forum when they are with their children. I'm concerned about this scenario where they browse somebody's profile and get more than they were looking for.

I'm 100% fine with the NSFW labled threads otherwise. It is only this scenario that QM brought up that concerns me.

if you dont want to expose your child to "adult" things, you probably shouldnt be browsing an adult forum around them.

full naked should be linked... tv level, generally accepted SFW should be ok.  if you're not ok with that, dont view it in places (work, in front of children) that you dont want it exposed.
It's so damn easy to say that life's so hard

rickymooston

Quote from: JadedPulse on December 11, 2010, 01:30:36 AM
But you ARE questioning his morals, by bringing up his job-among other things.

His job includes filtering out websites. As such, I assume that he, understands why his company pays him to do his job.

As for morality, diffrrent societies have different understandings about what is "right" or 'wrong' with respect to nudity. I don't personally have a strong opinion on the matter but we live in our society. I assume, nudity among the pigmy's is just "normal".

I like the NSFW threads and I post in them sometimes. Nuff said

Lastly, I was not suggesting censorsing words. It is just a fact that if you accidentally go to a wrong site with inappropriate pictures, other people tend to notice right away.

With words, its a bit different although I'll confess the web admin will notice them.

In terms of reading threads, I LIKE the NSFW marker on threads. I'm ok with NSFW threads being read by people who want to read them and ignored by people who don't.

||wink||
"Re: Why should any Black man have any respect for any cop?
Your question is racist. If the police behave badly then everyone should lose respect for those policemen.", Happy Evolute

JadedPulse

Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is that quiet voice at the end of the day saying I will try again tomorrow.

rickymooston

Quote from: ZZ on December 11, 2010, 01:31:29 AM
full naked should be linked... tv level, generally accepted SFW should be ok.

I can accept the above, I guess from the point of view of preventing the child scenario. (I think, Jay's thread violated that tho. I didn't check to see what was and what wasn't ruled on.)

For the record, I also never particularly said, I agreed a philosophy/religion site should be "adult" per se.  I think some 14 year olds actually post good arguments about politics, philosophy, religion and society in general.

||666||.
"Re: Why should any Black man have any respect for any cop?
Your question is racist. If the police behave badly then everyone should lose respect for those policemen.", Happy Evolute

Jay

But 14 year olds shouldnt be here either!!

Is this not appropriate for here????

http://www.britishblogs.co.uk/images/247412.jpg
I am me, if you dont like it, tough luck!

Jezzebelle

Quote from: rickymooston on December 11, 2010, 01:46:23 AM
Quote from: ZZ on December 11, 2010, 01:31:29 AM
full naked should be linked... tv level, generally accepted SFW should be ok.

I can accept the above.

For the record, I also never particularly said, I agreed a philosophy/religion site should be "adult" per se.  I think some 14 year olds actually post good arguments about politics, philosophy, religion and society in general.

||666||.

i am done with 13yr old forums... i am here because this is an adult forum.  im sure there are other places you can talk to 14 years olds.
It's so damn easy to say that life's so hard

rickymooston

Quote from: jay799 on December 11, 2010, 01:47:53 AM
But 14 year olds shouldnt be here either!!

I think they should.

However, having a forum appropriate for them would, I'm sorry to say possibly mean your picture, which I agree should be considered beautiful by society, as one not appropriate here.

However, I was overuled on the suggestion to make the minimum forum age 13 or 14, a long time ago and that's not what we are discussing.

I think this forum should be about critical thought and our society in general for the most part. That said, I like the adult humour and I like the members who post it.

You keep making the wrong point here.

Again, I'm not passing judgment on what "should be" but what the standards on our society are.

I've not given sufficient thought about what "should be" in our society.
"Re: Why should any Black man have any respect for any cop?
Your question is racist. If the police behave badly then everyone should lose respect for those policemen.", Happy Evolute

rickymooston

Quote from: ZZ on December 11, 2010, 01:49:31 AM
i am done with 13yr old forums... i am here because this is an adult forum.  im sure there are other places you can talk to 14 years olds.

On this forum, we have 50 year olds who act like 10 year olds.

||wink||

Check out the need people have to insult each other and they can't even do it right.
"Re: Why should any Black man have any respect for any cop?
Your question is racist. If the police behave badly then everyone should lose respect for those policemen.", Happy Evolute

JadedPulse

It's your OPINION that he's making the wrong point.

Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is that quiet voice at the end of the day saying I will try again tomorrow.

Jay

Quote from: rickymooston on December 11, 2010, 01:53:57 AM
However, having a forum appropriate for them would, I'm sorry to say possibly mean your picture, which I agree should be considered beautiful by society, as one not appropriate here.

If that image is not appropriate for here....I think THAT is disgusting.  It is a beautiful picture. 
I am me, if you dont like it, tough luck!

rickymooston

Quote from: JadedPulse on December 11, 2010, 01:56:13 AM
It's your OPINION that he's making the wrong point.



He keeps stressing how "beautiful the human body is", how its "censorship" and showing how silly our standards are.

I keep telling him, I agree.

Since I'm not disputing that, he is making the wrong point.

My point was not about what "should be", my point was about what is, in the context of it being acceptable in our society.

"Re: Why should any Black man have any respect for any cop?
Your question is racist. If the police behave badly then everyone should lose respect for those policemen.", Happy Evolute

JadedPulse

Oh for f**ks sake.

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

That's all I see from you, Moose. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is that quiet voice at the end of the day saying I will try again tomorrow.

rickymooston

Quote from: jay799 on December 11, 2010, 02:00:21 AM
Quote from: rickymooston on December 11, 2010, 01:53:57 AM
However, having a forum appropriate for them would, I'm sorry to say possibly mean your picture, which I agree should be considered beautiful by society, as one not appropriate here.

If that image is not appropriate for here....I think THAT is disgusting.  It is a beautiful picture. 

Jay, please re-read my post and stop quote mining me.
THEM <--- 14 year olds
WOULD <--- We use this in a conditional clause; i.e., for something, that isn't true (14 year olds being the target).
SHOULD BE <--- My agreement that the picture is beautiful.

Again, you keep emphasizing what we AGREE on. If you want to argue with somebody, understand where you DISAGREE
"Re: Why should any Black man have any respect for any cop?
Your question is racist. If the police behave badly then everyone should lose respect for those policemen.", Happy Evolute

JustMyron

I don't think all human beings are beautiful, that the human body is an example of perfection or the greatest beauty on the planet (for me, the winner is sunsets), or that we all look good naked  ||shocked||

I've just spent half an hour trying to find the seinfeld clip where it is conclusively demonstrated that there's such a thing as bad naked, but I was not successful  ||sad||

Anyhow, whether or not the pics of half-naked or fully naked people are pleasing to the eye is beside the point. A quest to make everyone comfortable with sexuality or the unclothed human form just isn't going to work, in my opinion. A balance must be struck. I think the one we strike now is a fairly good one, although to be honest I hadn't thought of the fact that search results and post histories would show NSFW pics before it was brought up here. When the boobs thread started up, I was like "Um... er... reallly? Do we need a boobs thread, and what kind of precedent does letting it stay vs. dumping it set? Um... our rules say all those should be linked rather than posted, but...  ||think|| the thread is labeled, so I guess that's OK...", not thinking of other ways the posts might be inadvertently accessed. I now regard that as a mistake.

Meanwhile, the mods have discussed it, and the consensus for now appears to be (although don't quote me on this as they may discuss it some more and change their minds) that we'll just live with that, accept the labeling of threads as NSFW, and people will have to restrain themselves from searching unless they're prepared to see the occasional semisexual pic. But in future, in the new version of the forum software, there's a tag called "spoiler", which hides its contents unless the viewer clicks on the "show" button. I think having NSFW pics inside of spoiler tags so that they don't automatically show up in search results unless the person wants to see and clicks, is a better compromise than our software will currently allow.

Jay, you think people who don't want to see nudity are exhibiting an attitude towards the human form that is disgusting and sad. Others think that nudity should be reserved for private spaces, and splashing it everywhere is disgusting and sad. Impasse. Compromise: Some people have to consent to a bit of censorship, and some people have to put up with some things that make them vaguely uncomfortable, and we do the best that our software allows to keep these two groups from clashing.

rickymooston

#63
EDIT: To pre-emptively comply with what E6 likely says.

Quote from: JadedPulse on December 11, 2010, 02:02:35 AM

This post, click on the link above can be paraphrased to mean the following in my opinion. "I didn't actually read what you said and neither did Jay. Therefore, we are qualified to make
comments on what you said."

Specifically:
1) I replied to Jay and dealt with him "quote mining" me. (That means intentionally misrepresented what somebody said by not including their whole post in context.)
2) Her post says "bla bla ... keep talking rikcy" or some other crap.
"Re: Why should any Black man have any respect for any cop?
Your question is racist. If the police behave badly then everyone should lose respect for those policemen.", Happy Evolute

JadedPulse

#64
Thanks for changing my quote.  ||Kerly|| ||Kerly|| ||Kerly|| ||Kerly|| ||Kerly|| ||Kerly|| ||Kerly|| ||Kerly|| ||Kerly|| ||Kerly|| ||Kerly|| ||Kerly|| ||Kerly|| ||Kerly|| ||Kerly|| ||Kerly|| ||Kerly|| ||Kerly|| ||Kerly|| ||Kerly|| ||Kerly|| ||Kerly|| ||Kerly||
Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is that quiet voice at the end of the day saying I will try again tomorrow.

rickymooston

Quote from: JadedPulse on December 11, 2010, 02:12:28 AM
Thanks for changing my quote.

Prove me wrong and in your own words summarize my argument.

I paraphrased your quote and what I said was true.

Jay misrepresented what I said
"Re: Why should any Black man have any respect for any cop?
Your question is racist. If the police behave badly then everyone should lose respect for those policemen.", Happy Evolute

JadedPulse

I don't give a s**t about your argument anymore.

You paraphrased NOTHING about my initial post, you changed every single word. That's an asshole move.
Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is that quiet voice at the end of the day saying I will try again tomorrow.

Jay

Quote from: JustMyron on December 11, 2010, 02:09:39 AM
Jay, you think people who don't want to see nudity are exhibiting an attitude towards the human form that is disgusting and sad.
I did not say that. I was referring to that specific image!!!  One image!!!!! Did you look at it?  It is a woman pregnant and a man holding her belly....covering all the *naughty* bits.

It is a thing of beauty...and IMO should be able to be a billboard on a highway!!!!!

I will think on the rest of what you said before posting further.
I am me, if you dont like it, tough luck!

Jay

Quote from: rickymooston on December 11, 2010, 02:09:59 AM
Quote from: JadedPulse on December 11, 2010, 02:02:35 AM
I didn't actually read what you said and neither did Jay. Therefore, we are qualified to make
comments on what you said.

I just want to inform you Ricky, that I just reported you for an E6 violation!
I am me, if you dont like it, tough luck!

rickymooston

Quote from: JadedPulse on December 11, 2010, 02:19:34 AM
You paraphrased NOTHING about my initial post,

The "Bla bla bla" in your post meant you weren't even reading said post.

Jay had just misquoted me when I specifically said and my post was correcting that. I had explicitly agree the picture was beautiful but I only said that the image would not likely be deemed ok on a forum geared to include 14 year olds.

The reason you can't paraphrase what I said, is because you don't know what I said.

"Re: Why should any Black man have any respect for any cop?
Your question is racist. If the police behave badly then everyone should lose respect for those policemen.", Happy Evolute

rickymooston

Quote from: jay799 on December 11, 2010, 02:21:48 AM
I just want to inform you Ricky, that I just reported you for an E6 violation!

You probably should have informed me before reporting it, in order to save the mods time

Nobody would have thought that quote was her original. It was an obvious edit but had you said, "I'm going to report this, I'd have edited my post".

I don't think you can summarize my position.
Here is Your postion:
Nudity is beautiful and banning it here is stupid censorship.

The problem is, you don't seem to have taken 5 minutes to understand what I'm arguing and you've just been repeating (with examples) your above thesis ad nauseam.  ||wink||

Rule #1 of debate: if you don't know your opponents position, you can't hold a credible debate.
"Re: Why should any Black man have any respect for any cop?
Your question is racist. If the police behave badly then everyone should lose respect for those policemen.", Happy Evolute

Jezzebelle

rule #2-  dont debate with stuffed animals.... they'll never have anything good to add to the debate
It's so damn easy to say that life's so hard

nateswift

Quote from: ZZ on December 11, 2010, 02:58:51 AM
rule #2-  dont debate with stuffed animals.... they'll never have anything good to add to the debate
So...... that makes 3 that don't seem to have enough sense to understand a very legitmate point made by Ricky?  We are talking about what society does and the standards that are in effect, not what should be.  How many of these very personally offensive posts have actually been reported for violations of courtesy? or even insults under rule 6?
The people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones who do-  Kerouac

Jezzebelle

Quote from: nateswift on December 11, 2010, 03:03:53 AM
Quote from: ZZ on December 11, 2010, 02:58:51 AM
rule #2-  dont debate with stuffed animals.... they'll never have anything good to add to the debate
So...... that makes 3 that don't seem to have enough sense to understand a very legitmate point made by Ricky?  We are talking about what society does and the standards that are in effect, not what should be.  How many of these very personally offensive posts have actually been reported for violations of courtesy? or even insults under rule 6?

no, he made it into that to fit his argument.  we were suppose to be talking about the +/- of a NSFW group for the forum, which is 16+.  he keeps bringing in all kinds of points that have nothing to do with this...
It's so damn easy to say that life's so hard

Jay

Quote from: nateswift on December 11, 2010, 03:03:53 AM
Quote from: ZZ on December 11, 2010, 02:58:51 AM
rule #2-  dont debate with stuffed animals.... they'll never have anything good to add to the debate
So...... that makes 3 that don't seem to have enough sense to understand a very legitmate point made by Ricky?  We are talking about what society does and the standards that are in effect, not what should be.  How many of these very personally offensive posts have actually been reported for violations of courtesy? or even insults under rule 6?

If you want to report a post...do it. it is that simple.

As far as Ricky's point and those that don't get it.  I think you don't get it.  I just posted a whole bunch of BILLBOARDS on public display to ANYONE walking by them(in my other thread)....you tell me that they are classified as NSFW when the images are posted 50 feet tall on the side of buildings for any and all to see!!!!  No matter what their age!  No matter who they are!!!

We are on an ADULT website where we discuss adult material in almost EVERY SINGLE FREAKING POST!!!!
I am me, if you dont like it, tough luck!

JustMyron

Quote from: jay799 on December 11, 2010, 02:20:16 AM
Quote from: JustMyron on December 11, 2010, 02:09:39 AM
Jay, you think people who don't want to see nudity are exhibiting an attitude towards the human form that is disgusting and sad.
I did not say that. I was referring to that specific image!!!  One image!!!!! Did you look at it?  It is a woman pregnant and a man holding her belly....covering all the *naughty* bits.

It is a thing of beauty...and IMO should be able to be a billboard on a highway!!!!!

I will think on the rest of what you said before posting further.

Addressed this post in the other thread where this stuff is being discussed (just in case someone comes along and thinks I didn't answer this post).

nateswift

Quote from: ZZ on December 11, 2010, 03:06:58 AM
Quote from: nateswift on December 11, 2010, 03:03:53 AM
Quote from: ZZ on December 11, 2010, 02:58:51 AM
rule #2-  dont debate with stuffed animals.... they'll never have anything good to add to the debate
So...... that makes 3 that don't seem to have enough sense to understand a very legitmate point made by Ricky?  We are talking about what society does and the standards that are in effect, not what should be.  How many of these very personally offensive posts have actually been reported for violations of courtesy? or even insults under rule 6?

no, he made it into that to fit his argument.  we were suppose to be talking about the +/- of a NSFW group for the forum, which is 16+.  he keeps bringing in all kinds of points that have nothing to do with this...
Existing variations in societal norms have nothing to do with this?
The people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones who do-  Kerouac

nateswift

Quote from: jay799 on December 11, 2010, 03:16:12 AM

If you want to report a post...do it. it is that simple.


We are on an ADULT website where we discuss adult material in almost EVERY SINGLE FREAKING POST!!!!
My point, Jay, is that some here seem to be getting a tad overwrought.
The people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones who do-  Kerouac

rickymooston

"I just posted a whole bunch of BILLBOARDS on public display to ANYONE walking by them"

Please display them in your office for your boss to see and let me know if you have a job after? ||smiley||

I dare you||wink||

There is a difference between "pictures" and "words" by the way. If you accidentally get the wrong words in a search, you can ignore that.

Quote from: jay799 on December 11, 2010, 03:16:12 AM
We are on an ADULT website where we discuss adult material in almost EVERY SINGLE FREAKING POST!!!!

What is "adult" about discussing:
- philosophy
- the existence of "God" or the impossibility of proving said existence
- evolution
- politics etc?  ||wink||

Agree, some topics are adult; e.g., the sexuality tank contains mature topics. There exists a difference between "words" and pictures

I am not trying to prevent anybody who wants content, I'm looking at allowing people who don't want content not to get caught by accident.

The problem is Jay, you are so full of your conviction about RIGHTNESS, you never bothered to take 2 minutes to find out where I agree with you and where I disagree.
"Re: Why should any Black man have any respect for any cop?
Your question is racist. If the police behave badly then everyone should lose respect for those policemen.", Happy Evolute

Dadzilla

QuoteThe problem is Jay, you are so full of your conviction about RIGHTNESS, you never bothered to take 2 minutes to find out where I agree with you and where I disagree.

Perhaps if you were to put it into bold print, Ricky.
"I've learned that good-byes will always hurt, pictures will never replace having been there, memories good and bad will bring tears, and words can never replace feelings."

rickymooston

"Re: Why should any Black man have any respect for any cop?
Your question is racist. If the police behave badly then everyone should lose respect for those policemen.", Happy Evolute

Jay

Quote from: rickymooston on December 11, 2010, 04:39:31 AM
"I just posted a whole bunch of BILLBOARDS on public display to ANYONE walking by them"

Please display them in your office for your boss to see and let me know if you have a job after? ||smiley||

I dare you.  ||wink||

There is a difference between "pictures" and "words" by the way. If you accidentally get the wrong words in a search, you can ignore that.

Quote from: jay799 on December 11, 2010, 03:16:12 AM
We are on an ADULT website where we discuss adult material in almost EVERY SINGLE FREAKING POST!!!!

What is "adult" about discussing:
- philosophy
- the existence of "God" or the impossibility of proving said existence
- evolution
- politics etc?  ||wink||

Agree, some topics are adult; e.g., the sexuality tank contains mature topics. There exists a difference between "words" and pictures

I am not trying to prevent anybody who wants content, I'm looking at allowing people who don't want content not to get caught by accident.

The problem is Jay, you are so full of your conviction about RIGHTNESS, you never bothered to take 2 minutes to find out where I agree with you and where I disagree.

I answered your thoughts in my latest post in the "thread that shouldnt be named"  I hate to do this...and mirror a post in another thread...and if it against the rules, I ask the mods for some leeway here.

NSFW THREAD(modified to denote this)

Quote from: jay799 on December 11, 2010, 04:28:47 AM
Quote from: JustMyron on December 11, 2010, 03:44:30 AM
Quote from: jay799 on December 11, 2010, 02:20:16 AM
Quote from: JustMyron on December 11, 2010, 02:09:39 AM
Jay, you think people who don't want to see nudity are exhibiting an attitude towards the human form that is disgusting and sad.
I did not say that. I was referring to that specific image!!!  One image!!!!! Did you look at it?  It is a woman pregnant and a man holding her belly....covering all the *naughty* bits.

It is a thing of beauty...and IMO should be able to be a billboard on a highway!!!!!

I will think on the rest of what you said before posting further.

OOPS. I glanced at it. Saw man + woman with man holding roundish shape that looked like giant breast. My bad, saw what I expected to see, not what was there. I retract, as I'd change the tone of what I said in light of this.
Thank you.  I appreciate that. You may not see the picture as beautiful as I do(I dont know if you do or not), however I don't see how anyone could rationally see that image as immoral or disgusting.  Yes....I wouldn't post it in a thread about if Jesus was a real man, but if there was a discussion on child birth here, I would not see it as inappropriate for me to post that image in the thread....directly.

And my point on the billboards stands....these billboards can be found almost anywhere.  On the side of 50 foot buildings.  On the side of highways.  In downtown cities.  In plenty of SFW magazines as advertisements.  If I had a copy of IDK...details magazine sitting in my office open to one of these pictures as an advertisement...would I be fired....no.  Now if I was sitting there leering at it all day and not getting my job done, well yes I would expect to be pulled into HR. I wouldn't even be fired for bringing in a copy of say Maxim magazine into the office.  Now again, if I was leering at them...or pulling my co-workers over and making suggestive comments about the pictures...well, something would be said in either of those cases.  But if I was sitting in our lunch room looking at Maxim magazine, I would not be fired.  If I was sitting on an airplane looking at a Maxim magazine the flight attendant would not ask me to close the magazine.

However, again, I have no problem labeling a thread as NSFW out of courtesy to other members...but none of those advertisements is technically NSFW.  maybe not appropriate for work.  You probably wouldn't want them taped to your office wall like you live in a dorm room.  And you probably wouldn't want to be sitting at your computer staring at them all day instead of working...but NSFW??? in my opinion as someone who does this for a living....I say no.  Now, the sfw porn posted in this thread...imo...I say NSFW.  HR would have to make the final call, but I think they would see it my way.  There is an implied act.  You know what you are supposed to be seeing, whether you can 'physically' see it or not.

Art?  Well that is where the discussion can get muddled but really shouldn't here...on a forum that discusses other adult material.  What is art to me is not necessarily art to you, however, the nude form has been a major subject in art for millennia.  What has changed over the years???  Simply the medium in which the nude form has been captured, whether that be marble, bronze, oil and canvas, or photography.    However, if I wanted to have an art appreciation thread on this forum, while I may feel it is prudent out of courtesy to label the thread as NSFW, I think that thread should be allowed and the art forms posted should be able to be directly posted within the thread.  Yes, directly posted. You shouldn't have to hide art.  You shouldn't have to relegate it to the back room like it is porn. This discussion has been dragged through the mud enough....but dont drag (and I am saying this to everyone) millennia of art down with it.  
I am me, if you dont like it, tough luck!

rickymooston

Quote from: jay799 on December 11, 2010, 04:58:58 AM

Jay, I went to the thread and saw billboards which are public. Where is the response? I'm confused.

I told you, I agree those billboards are public. My (rhetorical) question was however, lol, whether you would be able to post those ads in your office for all your co-workers to see.
"Re: Why should any Black man have any respect for any cop?
Your question is racist. If the police behave badly then everyone should lose respect for those policemen.", Happy Evolute

Jay

Quote from: rickymooston on December 11, 2010, 05:05:25 AM
Quote from: jay799 on December 11, 2010, 04:58:58 AM

Jay, I went to the thread and saw billboards which are public. Where is the response? I'm confused.

I told you, I agree those billboards are public. My (rhetorical) question was however, lol, whether you would be able to post those ads in your office for all your co-workers to see.

do your eyes need to be checked???  Maybe bold will help

QuoteIf I had a copy of IDK...details magazine sitting in my office open to one of these pictures as an advertisement...would I be fired....no.  Now if I was sitting there leering at it all day and not getting my job done, well yes I would expect to be pulled into HR. I wouldn't even be fired for bringing in a copy of say Maxim magazine into the office.  Now again, if I was leering at them...or pulling my co-workers over and making suggestive comments about the pictures...well, something would be said in either of those cases.  But if I was sitting in our lunch room looking at Maxim magazine, I would not be fired.  If I was sitting on an airplane looking at a Maxim magazine the flight attendant would not ask me to close the magazine.
I am me, if you dont like it, tough luck!

rickymooston

thanks.

If you had simply had a url to the post that would ok too.

||think||
"Re: Why should any Black man have any respect for any cop?
Your question is racist. If the police behave badly then everyone should lose respect for those policemen.", Happy Evolute

Jay

Ricky....the post IS HYPERLINKED and labeled to my NSFW thread just 4 posts above here...IN THIS THREAD!!!!
I am me, if you dont like it, tough luck!

Dadzilla

"I've learned that good-byes will always hurt, pictures will never replace having been there, memories good and bad will bring tears, and words can never replace feelings."

rickymooston

Quote from: jay799 on December 11, 2010, 05:18:43 AM
Ricky....the post IS HYPERLINKED and labeled to my NSFW thread just 4 posts above here...IN THIS THREAD!!!!

didn;'t see it

looked but i applaude your answer
"Re: Why should any Black man have any respect for any cop?
Your question is racist. If the police behave badly then everyone should lose respect for those policemen.", Happy Evolute