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Bin Laden letter debate

Started by Shnozzola, November 19, 2023, 01:24:13 PM

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Shnozzola

Bin laden's letter from "hell" (released on but now removed from tiktok):

Quote1.  ....letter blamed America for supporting the "Israeli oppression of the Palestinians" and "the occupation" in the Holy Land. 

2.  ...."The first thing that we are calling you to is Islam" before excoriating America for not being an Islamic theocracy.

"You are the nation who, rather than ruling by the Shariah of Allah in its Constitution and Laws, choose to invent your own laws as you will and desire. You separate religion from your policies, contradicting the pure nature which affirms Absolute Authority to the Lord and your Creator."

"It is the religion of Jihad in the way of Allah so that Allah's Word and religion reign Supreme," he claims. 

3.  He also calls for the end of "immortality and debauchery."

"We call you...to reject the immoral acts of fornication, homosexuality, intoxicants, gambling's [sic], and trading with interest."

4.....the Jews have taken control of your economy, through which they have then taken control of your media, and now control all aspects of your life making you their servants and achieving their aims at your expense," he says.

5......Soon after, he accuses the U.S. of trading "sex in all its forms" before tapping into fringe conspiracy theories about HIV/AIDS: "Go ahead and boast to the nations of man, that you brought them AIDS as a Satanic American Invention."

https://www.vox.com/politics/23966248/tiktok-osama-bin-laden-letter-to-america-the-guardian

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/aids-conspiracies-anti-semitism-inside-bin-ladens-deranged-letter-picking-up-new-support-online
Ironically, the myriad  of "god" beliefs of humanity are proving to be more dangerous than us learning that we are on our own, making the way we treat each other far more important

Kiahanie

I see death has not improved his attitude.
"If there were a little more silence, if we all kept quiet ... maybe we could understand something." --Federico Fellini....."Silence is the language of God, all else is poor translation" -Jellaludin Rumi,

Boots

Not sure what there is to debate.  Man was de-ranged.

Religion=institutionalized superstition

Apologetics=the art of making s**t up to make other made-up s**t sound more plausible

"To not believe in god is to know that it falls to us to make the world a better place."

~Sam Harris