Christian Doctrine - Pop Quiz.

[GratefulApe]

'If something can be established as a effect, then a cause is also immediately established; understood and accepted.'
True or False ?

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TRUE

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Understood? not hardly. What about miracles? Sometimes a miracle defies natural laws. Like getting water from a rock. Exodus 17.

[eyeshaveit]

'If something can be established as a effect, then a cause is also immediately established; understood and accepted.'
True or False ?

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TRUE

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Understood? not hardly. What about miracles? Sometimes a miracle defies natural laws. Like getting water from a rock. Exodus 17.

Are you saying, that the "effect" of a specific "miracle"; one that in fact (you believe) did happen, had no "cause" ?

[GratefulApe]

'If something can be established as a effect, then a cause is also immediately established; understood and accepted.'
True or False ?

Spoiler

TRUE

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Understood? not hardly. What about miracles? Sometimes a miracle defies natural laws. Like getting water from a rock. Exodus 17.

Are you saying, that the "effect" of a specific "miracle"; one that in fact (you believe) did happen, had no "cause" ?

No, I'm saying that I don't understand HOW God did it. You said that if you accepted the cause and effect that one immediately understands basically everything about it.   

[eyeshaveit]

'If something can be established as a effect, then a cause is also immediately established; understood and accepted.'
True or False ?

Spoiler

TRUE

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Understood? not hardly. What about miracles? Sometimes a miracle defies natural laws. Like getting water from a rock. Exodus 17.

Are you saying, that the "effect" of a specific "miracle"; one that in fact (you believe) did happen, had no "cause" ?

No, I'm saying that I don't understand HOW God did it. You said that if you accepted the cause and effect that one immediately understands basically everything about it.

No - forgive the semantic stumbling,
What was meant to be implied was that an "effect" leads to an "immediate" understanding of a related "cause".

[GratefulApe]

'If something can be established as a effect, then a cause is also immediately established; understood and accepted.'
True or False ?

Spoiler

TRUE

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Understood? not hardly. What about miracles? Sometimes a miracle defies natural laws. Like getting water from a rock. Exodus 17.

Are you saying, that the "effect" of a specific "miracle"; one that in fact (you believe) did happen, had no "cause" ?

No, I'm saying that I don't understand HOW God did it. You said that if you accepted the cause and effect that one immediately understands basically everything about it.

No - forgive the semantic stumbling,
What was meant to be implied was that an "effect" leads to an "immediate" understanding of a related "cause".

No it doesn't. Understanding cause and effect often takes time. Why do you think that Peter didn't want Jesus to die? because he didn't immediately understand cause and effect concerning the death of the Jewish Messiah.

[eyeshaveit]

No it doesn't. Understanding cause and effect often takes time. Why do you think that Peter didn't want Jesus to die? because he didn't immediately understand cause and effect concerning the death of the Jewish Messiah.

Peter's lacking understanding does not cancel out "cause and effect", any more than it would negate the law of gravity,

But more to the point, first century Jews were looking for a Messiah King, who would drive out their Roman rulers. Clues abound in the Hebrew Scriptures, of a Suffering Servant Messiah, but the Jews were focused on narrow military prowess; not on Christ's atonement for mankind's salvation.     

[GratefulApe]

No it doesn't. Understanding cause and effect often takes time. Why do you think that Peter didn't want Jesus to die? because he didn't immediately understand cause and effect concerning the death of the Jewish Messiah.

Peter's lacking understanding does not cancel out "cause and effect", any more than it would negate the law of gravity,

But more to the point, first century Jews were looking for a Messiah King, who would drive out their Roman rulers. Clues abound in the Hebrew Scriptures, of a Suffering Servant Messiah, but the Jews were focused on narrow military prowess; not on Christ's atonement for mankind's salvation.     

Clues? what would be the need for clues if everyone immediately understood cause and effect? besides it seems like you are negating the idea that one can have a revelation about a cause and its effect long after the event.

[eyeshaveit]

No it doesn't. Understanding cause and effect often takes time. Why do you think that Peter didn't want Jesus to die? because he didn't immediately understand cause and effect concerning the death of the Jewish Messiah.

Peter's lacking understanding does not cancel out "cause and effect", any more than it would negate the law of gravity,

But more to the point, first century Jews were looking for a Messiah King, who would drive out their Roman rulers. Clues abound in the Hebrew Scriptures, of a Suffering Servant Messiah, but the Jews were focused on narrow military prowess; not on Christ's atonement for mankind's salvation.     

Clues? what would be the need for clues if everyone immediately understood cause and effect?

There is a great difference between understanding that every "effect" has a "cause", and lnowing just exactly what the cause might be:

Water coming out of a rock; Jesus walking on water; feeding thousands with just a few loaves of bread, these are just a few of the miracles mentioned in the Bible, but not knowing the cause of any one of these miraculous things (effects) does not negate a cause.

Every effect has a cause.   

[GratefulApe]

No it doesn't. Understanding cause and effect often takes time. Why do you think that Peter didn't want Jesus to die? because he didn't immediately understand cause and effect concerning the death of the Jewish Messiah.

Peter's lacking understanding does not cancel out "cause and effect", any more than it would negate the law of gravity,

But more to the point, first century Jews were looking for a Messiah King, who would drive out their Roman rulers. Clues abound in the Hebrew Scriptures, of a Suffering Servant Messiah, but the Jews were focused on narrow military prowess; not on Christ's atonement for mankind's salvation.     

Clues? what would be the need for clues if everyone immediately understood cause and effect?

There is a great difference between understanding that every "effect" has a "cause", and lnowing just exactly what the cause might be:

Water coming out of a rock; Jesus walking on water; feeding thousands with just a few loaves of bread, these are just a few of the miracles mentioned in the Bible, but not knowing the cause of any one of these miraculous things (effects) does not negate a cause.

Every effect has a cause.   

Yes every effect has a cause but it is not true that it is immediately understood what the cause is. Nobody can be that sure about every effect and its cause. I get that you are (i think) trying to glorify God and His Sovereignty but there are things effects and causes that as Christians we can not know. I'm OK with that. 

[composer]

It would be fascinating to read the proofs & mechanism how eyes & Co. legitimately distinguish this supposed ' cause ', to be his supposed Supernatural God(s), when in his own propaganda mentality, the cause could well be his ' Supernatural naughty Satan ' masquerading as an angel of light? (2 Cor. 11:14) 

[eyeshaveit]

It would be fascinating to read the proofs & mechanism how eyes & Co. legitimately distinguish this supposed ' cause ', to be his supposed Supernatural God(s), when in his own propaganda mentality, the cause could well be his ' Supernatural naughty Satan ' masquerading as an angel of light? (2 Cor. 11:14) 

Satan's powers are indeed limited, but well he might pose-n-post as a "valued member" here, eh ? 

[composer]

It would be fascinating to read the proofs & mechanism how eyes & Co. legitimately distinguish this supposed ' cause ', to be his supposed Supernatural God(s), when in his own propaganda mentality, the cause could well be his ' Supernatural naughty Satan ' masquerading as an angel of light? (2 Cor. 11:14) 

Satan's powers are indeed limited, but well he might pose-n-post as a "valued member" here, eh ?

YOUR profile states YOU are a Valued Member!

Offline eyeshaveit
Valued Member

YOUR propaganda states malignant Sinners (e.g. catholics that require constant Confession) are counted among the agents of your supposed Devil you also call Satan -

he that doeth sin is of the devil; . . . . (1 John 3:8) ASV Story book founded upon MYTHS (e.g. Prov. 30:25 & 30) 

That being the case, it is YOU & Co., according to your own propaganda, that truly qualify as ' agents of your Devil/Satan, masquerading as an angel(s) of light! '

QED

[eyeshaveit]

What are the eight elements of The Gospel ?

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1 - Jesus' pre-existence.

2 - Jesus' incarnation.

3 - Jesus' atoning death.

4 - Jesus' burial.

5 - Jesus' physical resurrection.

6 - Jesus' appearance to 500 plus disciples.

7 - Jesus' ascension to Heaven.

8 - Jesus' second coming.

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[eyeshaveit]

Why do Christians call God, "Our Father" ?

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A Christian has the right and privilege to approach God, as 'Our Father':

"But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven ... Pray then like this: ?Our Father in heaven," - Matthew 5 and 6.

Almighty God is our adopted Father; we are sons and heirs with Christ:

"For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God. For you did not receive the spirit of slavery to fall back into fear, but you have received the Spirit of adoption as sons, by whom we cry, ?Abba! Father!? The Spirit himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, and if children, then heirs?heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, provided we suffer with him in order that we may also be glorified with him." - Romans 8.

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[eyeshaveit]

What do Christmas lights represent ?

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Christmas lights speak to the 'Light of the World'; the incarnate Jesus Christ, who came to earth to dwell with mankind:

"Again Jesus spoke to them, saying, ?I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.? - John 8.

"For at one time you were darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of light" - Ephesians 5.

"For so the Lord has commanded us, saying, ??I have made you a light for the Gentiles, that you may bring salvation to the ends of the earth.?? - Acts 13. 

"Is not the day of the Lord darkness, and not light, and gloom with no brightness in it?" - Amos 5.

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[eyeshaveit]

Mormons (LDS Church) have pinpointed the 'exact' location of the Holy Bible's Garden of Eden, where ?

Daviess, Missouri (USA) ?

Derbe, Turkey ?

Dilean, Israel ?

Dura, Iraq ?

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Daviess, Missouri

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[GratefulApe]

Mormons (LDS Church) have pinpointed the 'exact' location of the Holy Bible's Garden of Eden, where ?

Daviess, Missouri (USA) ?

Derbe, Turkey ?

Dilean, Israel ?

Dura, Iraq ?

Spoiler

Daviess, Missouri

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lol

[eyeshaveit]

In the Book of Leviticus, a Jubilee year (Hebrew: ?????? y???l) is mentioned to occur every fiftieth year, during which ______ ______ ______ and the mercies of God would be particularly manifest." - Google.

What were the three scriptural requisites of a 'Jubilee Year' ?

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1 - Liberty (freedom) for all Israelite indentured slaves.

2 - Restoring (return) of all property sold outside of (walled) cities. Ancestral land was never to be sold permanently. This included all Levitical land (in or out) of cities.

3 - Rest (yearlong) for the land. It was to lie fallow, which in the case of a Jubilee year was (a second year) two years in a row.

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[eyeshaveit]

What is Armageddon ?

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The name Armageddon occurs only once in the Bible:

"For they are demonic spirits, performing signs, who go abroad to the kings of the whole world, to assemble them for battle on the great day of God the Almighty. (?Behold, I am coming like a thief! Blessed is the one who stays awake, keeping his garments on, that he may not go about naked and be seen exposed!?) And they assembled them at the place that in Hebrew is called Armageddon." - Revelation 16.

"Armageddon will coincide with the second coming of Christ ... Armageddon is a Hebrew word, although it does not occur in the Old Testament. Its meaning is not exactly clear, but it is best taken to mean Mount Megiddo, since "Har" in Hebrew means mountain and "Mageddon" is the place-name of Megiddo." - Baker's Evangelical Dictionary of Biblical Theology.

"Megiddo (Hebrew: ???????) ... is an ancient city whose remains form a tell (archaeological mound), situated in northern Israel ... about 30 km south-east of Haifa." - Wikipedia.

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[eyeshaveit]

"When Adam had lived 130 years, he fathered a son in his own likeness, after his image, and named him Seth ..." - Genesis 3.

Following the Genesis chronology - Adam, Seth, Enos, Kenan, Mahalalel, Jared, Enoch, Methuselah, Lamech, Noah - how many years passed between the creation of Adam and the Flood ?

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About 1656 years had passed.

"Noah was six hundred years old when the flood of waters came upon the earth." - Genesis 7.

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[eyeshaveit]

"At the end of forty days Noah opened the window of the ark that he had made and sent forth a _____. It went to and fro until the waters were dried up from the earth. Then he sent forth a ____ from him, to see if the waters had subsided from the face of the ground." - Genesis 8.

What two birds did Noah send forth ?

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"At the end of forty days Noah opened the window of the ark that he had made and sent forth a raven. It went to and fro until the waters were dried up from the earth. Then he sent forth a dove from him, to see if the waters had subsided from the face of the ground."

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[eyeshaveit]

What is 'modalism' ?

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"Modalism is the doctrine that the persons of the Trinity represent only three modes or aspects of the divine revelation, not distinct and coexisting persons in the divine nature." - Google.

"Modalism is a heresy that maintains that ?Father,? ?Son,? and ?Holy Spirit? are three names for, or *modes*, (thus *mod*-alism) of, one and the same person. They are not three persons. Modalism fails to account for several matters. One is the baptism of Jesus: all three persons of the Trinity were active, as the Father spoke words of commendation about his baptized Son, on whom the Spirit was descending (Mark 1:9-11). Another event is Jesus praying: the Son of God did not direct his prayers to himself but directed them to his Father, who is a person distinct from the Son (John 17)." - The Baker Compact Dictionary of Theological Terms.

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[eyeshaveit]

"Authority is the power or right to give orders, make decisions, and enforce obedience." - Google.

What is the source of God's authority; choose all those that apply:

The (Apostle's, etc.) Creeds ?
The (Westminster, etc.) Confessions ?
Christian Experience ?
Christian Reasoning ?
God's Word ?
The Inner Light ?
The Inner Voice ?
The Mind of the Church ?

Spoiler

God's word.

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[eyeshaveit]

What is the first scientific discipline mentioned in the Holy Bible ?

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Taxonomy - "that branch of science concerned with classification, especially of organisms; systematics." - Google.

"Now out of the ground the Lord God had formed every beast of the field and every bird of the heavens and brought them to the man to see what he would call them. And whatever the man called every living creature, that was its name. The man gave names to all livestock and to the birds of the heavens and to every beast of the field." - Genesis 2.

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[eyeshaveit]

Born into a family beset with violence.
Even my dear grandmother wanted to kill me.
But my uncle was a priest; he and my aunt hid me.
And then at the age of seven I became the King of Israel.

Who am I ?

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Joash, the son of Ahaziah:
Read the account in 2 Chronicles 22 and 23.

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[eyeshaveit]

Looking for a ratio:
In the New Testament, how many times is Jesus referred to as the 'Son of Man': in the four Gospels versus Paul's 13 epistles ?

Gospels 00 vs Paul 50 ?

Gospels 10 vs Paul 25 ?

Gospels 25 vs Paul 10 ?

Gospels 50 vs Paul 00 ?

Spoiler

Jesus is called the Son of Man 50 times in the four Gospel accounts, and never once in Paul's 13 letters.

The title, "Son of Man", does occur once in Acts:

"Now when they heard these things they were enraged, and they ground their teeth at him [Stephen]. But he, full of the Holy Spirit, gazed into heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God. And he said, ?Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God.?" - Acts 7.

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[eyeshaveit]

True or False :

A - Animals are conscious; they have minds ?

B - Animals are controlled by chemistry, physics and instinct ?

C - Animals are happy and good ?

D - Animals are moral and rational ?

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'A' and 'B' are true; 'C' and 'D' are false.

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[eyeshaveit]

What was the message of the early Christian Church, concerning the teachings of Jesus ?

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1 - That God exists.
2 - That Jesus' death and resurrection occurred.
3 - That God ordained Jesus' death and resurrection.
4 - And by raising the dead Jesus of Nazareth, God blessed and confirmed his teachings.

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[eyeshaveit]

How did the Book of Numbers get it's name ?

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From the 'numbers' that resulted from the two censuses found in Numbers:

"The Lord spoke to Moses in the wilderness of Sinai, in the tent of meeting, on the first day of the second month, in the second year after they had come out of the land of Egypt, saying, ?Take a census of all the congregation of the people of Israel, by clans, by fathers' houses, according to the number of names, every male, head by head. From twenty years old and upward, all in Israel who are able to go to war, you and Aaron shall list them, company by company." - Numbers 1.

"After the plague, the Lord said to Moses and to Eleazar the son of Aaron, the priest, ?Take a census of all the congregation of the people of Israel, from twenty years old and upward, by their fathers' houses, all in Israel who are able to go to war.?" - Numbers 26.

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[eyeshaveit]

What percentage of young Christians stop worshiping God while attending a secular college or university ?

20%
40%
60%
80%

Spoiler

More than 60% of college students 'leave' the church during their college years. One outlier poll registered a dropout rate of 93%.

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