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Started by rickymooston, December 08, 2010, 02:55:28 AM

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rickymooston

Quote from: JadedPulse on December 10, 2010, 10:15:43 PM
Valid point or not, they are whining.

Its an issue that should be addressed.

It would suck if somebody was browsing the forum with their seven year old kid in the room
browsing "jay's profile" (* Jay being a user with some good non-sex related posts*) when suddenly "VOMP"  ||shocked||
"Re: Why should any Black man have any respect for any cop?
Your question is racist. If the police behave badly then everyone should lose respect for those policemen.", Happy Evolute

JadedPulse

Yes. I UNDERSTAND THAT!!!!!! Did I make it clear enough for you that time, Moose?

I still think it's whining, the way that they are discussing it.
Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is that quiet voice at the end of the day saying I will try again tomorrow.

rickymooston

Quote from: JadedPulse on December 10, 2010, 10:32:32 PM
Yes. I UNDERSTAND THAT!!!!!! Did I make it clear enough for you that time, Moose?

Nobody else raised the issue and the mod's certainly haven't said anything about it..

Quote from: JadedPulse on December 10, 2010, 10:32:32 PM
I still think it's whining, the way that they are discussing it.

Perhaps anybody who disagrees with you is a whiner ...  ||troll||

I never said I agreed with the other (perfectly valid) points that QM also made. I disagree with those, but unlike yourself, i don't automatically call everybody who disagrees with me a "whiner".

For the record, I do think some of the NSFW is fun and that it has a place on the forum.

It didn't say that having a "group" is the only way to deal with this issue but its probably the easiest.

"Re: Why should any Black man have any respect for any cop?
Your question is racist. If the police behave badly then everyone should lose respect for those policemen.", Happy Evolute

JadedPulse

Lmao.

Things just fly RIGHT over your damn head.

Done trying to talk seriously with you.
Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is that quiet voice at the end of the day saying I will try again tomorrow.

rickymooston

Quote from: JadedPulse on December 10, 2010, 10:55:23 PM
Things just fly RIGHT over your damn head.

Perhaps, I've missed a post and you can show this "whining".

"Re: Why should any Black man have any respect for any cop?
Your question is racist. If the police behave badly then everyone should lose respect for those policemen.", Happy Evolute

JadedPulse

 I PERSONALLY THINK THEY HAVE BEEN WHINING. ME. MY OPINION. ME ME ME. NOT ANYBODY ELSE.

I don't really give two s**ts if you think they have been whining or not, because I do.
Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is that quiet voice at the end of the day saying I will try again tomorrow.

Jay

Quote from: rickymooston on December 10, 2010, 09:52:20 PM
I am not proposing getting rid of NSFW content; I'm suggesting perhaps it should be in a place where those who want it can see it and those who don't don't have to, even if they browse posts

Yes Ricky....let us validate that the nude human form is something that is disgusting and has to be hidden.  Lets setup a secret little room with a curtain in the front of it and make it appear that you are a pervert if you enter it...while people stand around and snicker and make snide comments about the pervert going into the back room.  
||Kerly||

Alternatively...why dont we setup a kiddie section.  That way all of the kiddie section can be filled with posts of LOLcats, and pictures of rainbows and dolphins.  And then the rest of the 90% of the posts on this site discussing adult content can be viewed by those that can judge what they want to see for themselves.

As an FYI....half of the posts in your Cloud Interpretation thread are NSFW and should be removed from this site if NSFW content needs to be hyperlinked.
I am me, if you dont like it, tough luck!

rickymooston



Quote from: jay799 on December 10, 2010, 11:10:09 PM
let us validate that the nude human form is something that is disgusting and has to be hidden.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indecent_exposure

Quote from: jay799 on December 10, 2010, 11:10:09 PM
As an FYI....half of the posts in your Cloud Interpretation thread are NSFW and should be removed from this site if NSFW content needs to be hyperlinked.

Images of clouds are clouds. If you see a d**k in a cloud, that's hardly "NSFW".

"Re: Why should any Black man have any respect for any cop?
Your question is racist. If the police behave badly then everyone should lose respect for those policemen.", Happy Evolute

Jay

Quote from: rickymooston on December 10, 2010, 11:28:56 PM
Quote from: jay799 on December 10, 2010, 11:10:09 PM
As an FYI....half of the posts in your Cloud Interpretation thread are NSFW and should be removed from this site if NSFW content needs to be hyperlinked.

Images of clouds are clouds. If you see a d**k in a cloud, that's hardly "NSFW".



Oh really?  well, your theory was put to the test on our old forum one day...and the goal was to recreate your thread over there.  Guess what, the whole thread got slashed by over moderation and then taken down completely for being NSFW....there was nothing in it except God's inkblots as you like to call them...

So it has to be a REAL d**k to be NSFW?  So pictures of dildos would not be NSFW?  Painting?  What if I drew a picture of a 'd**k' (your crude word not mine) in MS paint...

Quote from: rickymooston on December 10, 2010, 11:28:56 PM


Quote from: jay799 on December 10, 2010, 11:10:09 PM
let us validate that the nude human form is something that is disgusting and has to be hidden.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indecent_exposure
Indecent exposure?? c'mon.  Do you even read your own cites???  Does that apply in this case???  Wouldn't you have to be in front of me physically while I whip out frank and wave it around in your face for that to apply...

However, even from your own cite...Indecent Exposure varies widely from community to community.  In Afghanistan one could be arrested for it by exposing too much ankle...

But again...I give you this...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depictions_of_nudity
I am me, if you dont like it, tough luck!

rickymooston

Quote from: jay799 on December 10, 2010, 11:48:40 PM
well, your theory was put to the test on our old forum one day...and the goal was to recreate your thread over there.  Guess what, the whole thread got slashed by over moderation and then taken down completely for being NSFW....there was nothing in it except God's inkblots as you like to call them...

Quote from: rickymooston on July 30, 2010, 02:42:39 AM


You posted this and the mods there banned you as a porn spammer?

"Re: Why should any Black man have any respect for any cop?
Your question is racist. If the police behave badly then everyone should lose respect for those policemen.", Happy Evolute

Jay

I am me, if you dont like it, tough luck!

rickymooston

"Re: Why should any Black man have any respect for any cop?
Your question is racist. If the police behave badly then everyone should lose respect for those policemen.", Happy Evolute

Jay

Quoteseems like the mods there have very dirty minds. They must be a punch of pervs

Or they wear QM colored glasses...or the kind of glasses he would want the mods to wear here if he had his way.


It is Censorship Ricky...Plain and simple.  And what you are asking, by setting up a NSFW area is a validation of that censorship.  That "naughty" pics need to be relegated to some back room some where, hidden away.  That those that can admire the beauty in the human form...the purest and most beautiful thing on this planet....are perverts.

I am me, if you dont like it, tough luck!

rickymooston

Quote from: jay799 on December 11, 2010, 12:36:00 AM
It is Censorship Ricky...Plain and simple.

JustMyron seems to have explained it to you. What I find mind boggling is that you are the guy that runs your corporate filter; i.e., you are well aware that in some companies you could get in serious trouble.

Are you planning to show your 8 year old your thread? The reality is, in our society, nudity is interpreted differently than in other ones.

Quote from: jay799 on December 11, 2010, 12:36:00 AM
 And what you are asking, by setting up a NSFW area is a validation of that censorship.  

Its a recognition that, our target audience, which is broad, includes people who don't want to accidentally browse jay's posts and see mr. Slinky.

If you want to be a nudist, you are welcome to it. (I've got a 1000 threads on these sorts of topics on the sexuality tank by the way.)
"Re: Why should any Black man have any respect for any cop?
Your question is racist. If the police behave badly then everyone should lose respect for those policemen.", Happy Evolute

Jezzebelle

Quote from: rickymooston on December 11, 2010, 12:58:27 AM
Are you planning to show your 8 year old your thread?


this is not a forum for children, it's an adult forum... and we can all act like adults and have pics of bikinis and underwear.  if your employer is so strict that any sexual images are NSFW, you probably shouldnt be on a religious, adult forum at work in the first place.  or you can at least take the care to know that these adult things may be on the forum so don't go into the those threads or view post history at work.  there's no reason to shut down generally accepted SFW images, because one employer *may* object.  you need to take responsability for what you view at work, and be careful if they are that strict.  this is an adult forum and should be treated like one.

(as a sidenote- i would also like to say that i really dont understand why QM or seka got all wound up about this... neither or them even have jobs, QM is a student and seka is a SAHM.  so in all honestly this wasnt a debate about things being "safe" for work, it was a debate about them not wanting to see sexual images period)
It's so damn easy to say that life's so hard

rickymooston

Quote from: ZZ on December 11, 2010, 01:06:58 AM
this is not a forum for children

I agree but somebody can be browsing the forum when they are with their children. I'm concerned about this scenario where they browse somebody's profile and get more than they were looking for.

I'm 100% fine with the NSFW labled threads otherwise. It is only this scenario that QM brought up that concerns me.

Quote from: ZZ on December 11, 2010, 01:06:58 AM
, it's an adult forum...

This is not very obvious; look at the typical forum brawl.  ||wink||

Quote from: ZZ on December 11, 2010, 01:06:58 AM
and we can all act like adults

You act reasonably like an adult most of the time. That was one of the reasons that I had, (somewhere on the forum), suggested you (among other people) as an awesome candidate to be a mod.

Obviously many people don't act like adults.

Quote from: ZZ on December 11, 2010, 01:06:58 AM
and have pics of bikinis and underwear.  if your employer is so strict that any sexual images are NSFW, you probably shouldnt be on a religious, adult forum at work in the first place.

Co-workers rarely read what you browse on lunch break but if you have dirty pictures, they notice.

Quote from: ZZ on December 11, 2010, 01:06:58 AM
  or you can at least take the care to know that these adult things may be on the forum so don't go into the those threads or view post history at work.

I agree.

My concerns is, somebody not thinking, clicking "browse forum posts" and getting in trouble.


Quote from: ZZ on December 11, 2010, 01:06:58 AM
  there's no reason to shut down generally accepted SFW images

I didn't want to shut them down. I think they belong on the forum1, I just wanted a work around until we could avoid the "browse profile" problem.

1- Some people including myself think some of them are fun and stay away from them by avoiding threads with titles like NSFW
"Re: Why should any Black man have any respect for any cop?
Your question is racist. If the police behave badly then everyone should lose respect for those policemen.", Happy Evolute

Jay

Quote from: rickymooston on December 11, 2010, 12:58:27 AM
Quote from: jay799 on December 11, 2010, 12:36:00 AM
It is Censorship Ricky...Plain and simple.

JustMyron seems to have explained it to you. What I find mind boggling is that you are the guy that runs your corporate filter; i.e., you are well aware that in some companies you could get in serious trouble.

Are you planning to show your 8 year old your thread? The reality is, in our society, nudity is interpreted differently than in other ones.

Quote from: jay799 on December 11, 2010, 12:36:00 AM
 And what you are asking, by setting up a NSFW area is a validation of that censorship.  

Its a recognition that, our target audience, which is broad, includes people who don't want to accidentally browse jay's posts and see mr. Slinky.

If you want to be a nudist, you are welcome to it. (I've got a 1000 threads on these sorts of topics on the sexuality tank by the way.)

See Ricky....this is the BULLs**t that pissed me off so much from QM and Seka.  The question of my morals...and the implication that I want children to see porn!!!!  

This place is an adult forum, where adult things are discussed.  I wouldnt want an 8 year old to read probably about 80% of the written content on this website.

Maybe we need to shutdown the entire sexuality sub section of the forum as we discuss things I wouldnt want an 8 year old to read!!!  Maybe we should shut down the philosophy discussions, or the science discussions, or even the news discussions.

And if you want to try to attack my character by bringing in my job...go ahead, your on QM thin ice with me at this point.  My job entails that I know EXACTLY what is NSFW content.  And I have NO f**kING GOD DAMMNED PROBLEM with it ALLLLL being posted behind a label of Not Safe for f**king Work!!!!!  Whether the material is technically NSFW or Possibly NSFW.  But there should GOD DAMMED well be a place on an ADULT forum where the material can be shown!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I am me, if you dont like it, tough luck!

rickymooston

Quote from: jay799 on December 11, 2010, 01:21:45 AM
See Ricky....this is the BULLs**t that pissed me off so much from QM and Seka.  The question of my morals...and the implication that I want children to see porn!!!! 

I didn't question your morals, I gave you a scenario where children could accidentally see porn.

Let me say it again, for 1000th time.

1) Browse proile
2) Accidentally see dirty pictures
3) The person (an adult) browsing the forum, looking to discuss religion, see PICTURES which their kids, seeing "mom" on the computer see



Some people consider it "ok" for 8 year olds to see nudity (not explicit porn) and some don't. I was not judging either views.

http://www1.american.edu/ted/ice/pygmy.htm
"Re: Why should any Black man have any respect for any cop?
Your question is racist. If the police behave badly then everyone should lose respect for those policemen.", Happy Evolute

JadedPulse

But you ARE questioning his morals, by bringing up his job-among other things.
Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is that quiet voice at the end of the day saying I will try again tomorrow.

Jezzebelle

Quote from: rickymooston on December 11, 2010, 01:19:39 AM
Quote from: ZZ on December 11, 2010, 01:06:58 AM
this is not a forum for children

I agree but somebody can be browsing the forum when they are with their children. I'm concerned about this scenario where they browse somebody's profile and get more than they were looking for.

I'm 100% fine with the NSFW labled threads otherwise. It is only this scenario that QM brought up that concerns me.

if you dont want to expose your child to "adult" things, you probably shouldnt be browsing an adult forum around them.

full naked should be linked... tv level, generally accepted SFW should be ok.  if you're not ok with that, dont view it in places (work, in front of children) that you dont want it exposed.
It's so damn easy to say that life's so hard

rickymooston

Quote from: JadedPulse on December 11, 2010, 01:30:36 AM
But you ARE questioning his morals, by bringing up his job-among other things.

His job includes filtering out websites. As such, I assume that he, understands why his company pays him to do his job.

As for morality, diffrrent societies have different understandings about what is "right" or 'wrong' with respect to nudity. I don't personally have a strong opinion on the matter but we live in our society. I assume, nudity among the pigmy's is just "normal".

I like the NSFW threads and I post in them sometimes. Nuff said

Lastly, I was not suggesting censorsing words. It is just a fact that if you accidentally go to a wrong site with inappropriate pictures, other people tend to notice right away.

With words, its a bit different although I'll confess the web admin will notice them.

In terms of reading threads, I LIKE the NSFW marker on threads. I'm ok with NSFW threads being read by people who want to read them and ignored by people who don't.

||wink||
"Re: Why should any Black man have any respect for any cop?
Your question is racist. If the police behave badly then everyone should lose respect for those policemen.", Happy Evolute

JadedPulse

Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is that quiet voice at the end of the day saying I will try again tomorrow.

rickymooston

Quote from: ZZ on December 11, 2010, 01:31:29 AM
full naked should be linked... tv level, generally accepted SFW should be ok.

I can accept the above, I guess from the point of view of preventing the child scenario. (I think, Jay's thread violated that tho. I didn't check to see what was and what wasn't ruled on.)

For the record, I also never particularly said, I agreed a philosophy/religion site should be "adult" per se.  I think some 14 year olds actually post good arguments about politics, philosophy, religion and society in general.

||666||.
"Re: Why should any Black man have any respect for any cop?
Your question is racist. If the police behave badly then everyone should lose respect for those policemen.", Happy Evolute

Jay

But 14 year olds shouldnt be here either!!

Is this not appropriate for here????

http://www.britishblogs.co.uk/images/247412.jpg
I am me, if you dont like it, tough luck!

Jezzebelle

Quote from: rickymooston on December 11, 2010, 01:46:23 AM
Quote from: ZZ on December 11, 2010, 01:31:29 AM
full naked should be linked... tv level, generally accepted SFW should be ok.

I can accept the above.

For the record, I also never particularly said, I agreed a philosophy/religion site should be "adult" per se.  I think some 14 year olds actually post good arguments about politics, philosophy, religion and society in general.

||666||.

i am done with 13yr old forums... i am here because this is an adult forum.  im sure there are other places you can talk to 14 years olds.
It's so damn easy to say that life's so hard

rickymooston

Quote from: jay799 on December 11, 2010, 01:47:53 AM
But 14 year olds shouldnt be here either!!

I think they should.

However, having a forum appropriate for them would, I'm sorry to say possibly mean your picture, which I agree should be considered beautiful by society, as one not appropriate here.

However, I was overuled on the suggestion to make the minimum forum age 13 or 14, a long time ago and that's not what we are discussing.

I think this forum should be about critical thought and our society in general for the most part. That said, I like the adult humour and I like the members who post it.

You keep making the wrong point here.

Again, I'm not passing judgment on what "should be" but what the standards on our society are.

I've not given sufficient thought about what "should be" in our society.
"Re: Why should any Black man have any respect for any cop?
Your question is racist. If the police behave badly then everyone should lose respect for those policemen.", Happy Evolute

rickymooston

Quote from: ZZ on December 11, 2010, 01:49:31 AM
i am done with 13yr old forums... i am here because this is an adult forum.  im sure there are other places you can talk to 14 years olds.

On this forum, we have 50 year olds who act like 10 year olds.

||wink||

Check out the need people have to insult each other and they can't even do it right.
"Re: Why should any Black man have any respect for any cop?
Your question is racist. If the police behave badly then everyone should lose respect for those policemen.", Happy Evolute

JadedPulse

It's your OPINION that he's making the wrong point.

Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is that quiet voice at the end of the day saying I will try again tomorrow.

Jay

Quote from: rickymooston on December 11, 2010, 01:53:57 AM
However, having a forum appropriate for them would, I'm sorry to say possibly mean your picture, which I agree should be considered beautiful by society, as one not appropriate here.

If that image is not appropriate for here....I think THAT is disgusting.  It is a beautiful picture. 
I am me, if you dont like it, tough luck!

rickymooston

Quote from: JadedPulse on December 11, 2010, 01:56:13 AM
It's your OPINION that he's making the wrong point.



He keeps stressing how "beautiful the human body is", how its "censorship" and showing how silly our standards are.

I keep telling him, I agree.

Since I'm not disputing that, he is making the wrong point.

My point was not about what "should be", my point was about what is, in the context of it being acceptable in our society.

"Re: Why should any Black man have any respect for any cop?
Your question is racist. If the police behave badly then everyone should lose respect for those policemen.", Happy Evolute