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« on: June 12, 2010, 12:42:04 AM »

Something said in another thread(by me I think) made me think to start this thread

"Cleanliness is next to godliness" is not in the scriptures. There are close calls but no exact quotes.
These are the closest I could find.

1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

John 15:3
You are already clean because of the word which I have spoken to you.

2 Corinthians 7:1
Therefore, having these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all defilement of flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.

James 4:8
Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded.

Ephesians 5:26-27
So that He might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, that He might present to Himself the church in all her glory, having no spot or wrinkle or any such thing; but that she would be holy and blameless.


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Your turn. a famous saying that is attributed to the bible but is not there.
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« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2010, 12:52:38 AM »

going to hell in a hand basket.
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« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2010, 12:58:04 AM »

going to hell in a hand basket.

John Smith wrote that so it is in the Mormon Bible.
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« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2010, 12:59:16 AM »

?what would jesus do??
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« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2010, 01:00:50 AM »

going to hell in a hand basket.

John Smith wrote that so it is in the Mormon Bible.


noooooo God TOLD him to write it, from golden plates... which nobody saw...
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« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2010, 01:01:53 AM »

how about...
a) jesus lept.
b) jesus slept.
and finally...
c) jesus shaves!!
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« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2010, 01:02:21 AM »

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[23] And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene.


Nobody has ever found this prophecy in the Bible that Matthew made in this particular verse. Not even one prophet let alone "spoken by the prophets" plural.
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« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2010, 01:06:21 AM »

How about "god helps those who help themselves"
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« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2010, 01:31:16 AM »

going to hell in a hand basket.

John Smith wrote that so it is in the Mormon Bible.

2 Nephi

When women are allowed to rule, everything goes to hell in a hand basket. 13:12


Thought I should qualify this by posting the actual verse.
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« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2010, 05:23:38 AM »

Money is the root of all evil.
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« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2010, 05:31:36 AM »

I'm feeling particularly lazy today  cheesy
so I googled a list
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BIBLE MISQUOTES



All men are created equal
All's well that ends well
An idle mind is the devil's workshop
As the twig is bent, so shall the tree grow
As you make your bed, you must lie in it
Beauty is only skin deep
Better half a loaf than no bread at all
Blood is thicker than water
Bread is the staff of life
Charity begins at home
Cleanliness is next to godliness
Confession is good for the soul
Every cloud has a silver lining
Familiarity breeds contempt
Give the devil his due
God helps those who help themselves
God is in heaven, and all is right with the world
God moves in mysterious ways, His wonders to perform
God's mill grinds slow but true
Honest is the best policy
Idle hands are the devil's workshop
Lord, what fools these mortals be
Money is the root of all evil
Neither a borrower nor a lender be
Spare the rod and spoil the child
Sweet are the uses of adversity
The gift without the giver is bare
The time is out of joint
There is none so blind as he who will not see
To err is human, to forgive, divine
United we stand, divided we fall
When in Rome do as the Romans do
Take it with the grain of salt

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« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2010, 05:49:12 AM »

Money is the root of all evil.

1 Tim 1:10 "For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil."
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« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2010, 05:58:27 AM »

Money is the root of all evil.

1 Tim 1:10 "For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil."

Quite so. There is a huge difference between the meaning of the misquote and the actual quote.
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« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2010, 07:11:35 PM »

Wabbit

Half of those I had never attributed  to the bible. To be honest, I had never heard anyone attribute the few to the bible. Shakespeare or US founding fathers maybe. especially the "to err is human..." one
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« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2010, 07:32:11 PM »

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[23] And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene.
Nobody has ever found this prophecy in the Bible that Matthew made in this particular verse. Not even one prophet let alone "spoken by the prophets" plural.

very good point. not even in any deterocanonical or pseudepigrapha that i know about.

sheds interesting light on the concept of a canon

another:

spare the rod and spoil the child.
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« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2010, 10:19:15 PM »

I'm feeling particularly lazy today  cheesy

BIBLE MISQUOTES



All men are created equal
All's well that ends well
An idle mind is the devil's workshop
As the twig is bent, so shall the tree grow
As you make your bed, you must lie in it
Beauty is only skin deep
Better half a loaf than no bread at all
Blood is thicker than water
Bread is the staff of life
Charity begins at home
Cleanliness is next to godliness
Confession is good for the soul
Every cloud has a silver lining
Familiarity breeds contempt
Give the devil his due
God helps those who help themselves
God is in heaven, and all is right with the world
God moves in mysterious ways, His wonders to perform
God's mill grinds slow but true
Honest is the best policy
Idle hands are the devil's workshop
Lord, what fools these mortals be
Money is the root of all evil
Neither a borrower nor a lender be
Spare the rod and spoil the child
Sweet are the uses of adversity
The gift without the giver is bare
The time is out of joint
There is none so blind as he who will not see
To err is human, to forgive, divine
United we stand, divided we fall
When in Rome do as the Romans do
Take it with the grain of salt

Appreciated the list.

Seems today even "i'm ok. you're ok" would be thought to be 'biblical' by many ;-(
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« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2010, 11:39:56 PM »

Money is the root of all evil.
at first glance I thought it said Mooby....
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« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2010, 10:31:07 AM »

Better to spew your seed in the belly of a whore than upon the ground.
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« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2010, 08:43:21 PM »

"A fool and his money are soon parted" is actually a proverb found in the poem "Five Hundred Points of Good Husbandry" by Thomas Tusser
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« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2010, 01:26:01 PM »

Better to spew your seed in the belly of a whore than upon the ground.

 shocked OMG!  who says that?
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« Reply #20 on: June 18, 2010, 02:29:42 PM »

Better to spew your seed in the belly of a whore than upon the ground.


 shocked OMG!  who says that?


It may not be explicitly stated, but it is a valid inference from this ...

Genesis 38
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« Reply #21 on: June 18, 2010, 02:36:08 PM »

 bang head bang head bang head

Not. One. Brain. Cell. Left.

No, it is not a valid inference. It is light years away from the slightest understanding of the story. Try learning what levirate marriage is either here http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=293&letter=L or on Wikipedia.

Do you understand that there is such a thing as literary criticism and that when dealing with ancient literature you actually need to know something (a lot of things) about the culture in order to understand what you are reading? Why would you just assume that you can pick up a 3000 year old tale and read it like you read the menu at McDonalds? Why do you think people can and do earn Ph.Ds in ancient literatures and languages, if any Tom, Dick or Harry off the street can get it right, without any knowledge at all?
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« Reply #22 on: June 18, 2010, 02:41:47 PM »

I don't give a stuff about "Levirite marriage", but Tamar (in the story) agreed to sleep with Judah in exchange for a goat, and Onan was struck dead by God for "spilling his seed" instead of f**king her.

I'll draw my own conclusions, thanks.
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Better to spew your seed in the belly of a whore than upon the ground.


 shocked OMG!  who says that?


It may not be explicitly stated, but it is a valid inference from this ...

Genesis 38


Thanks so much for the info HE!
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« Reply #24 on: June 18, 2010, 02:43:52 PM »

I don't give a stuff about "Levirite marriage", but Tamar (in the story) agreed to sleep with Judah in exchange for a goat, and Onan was struck dead by God for "spilling his seed" instead of f**king her.

I'll draw my own conclusions, thanks.

Of course you will! Why on earth would actual knowledge be of interest to you?

The intellectual "integrity" of the uneducated atheist is a sorrowful thing to behold.
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« Reply #25 on: June 18, 2010, 02:44:41 PM »

I don't give a stuff about "Levirite marriage", but Tamar (in the story) agreed to sleep with Judah in exchange for a goat, and Onan was struck dead by God for "spilling his seed" instead of f**king her.

I'll draw my own conclusions, thanks.

that's quite a story!  thanks for the link  wink
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« Reply #26 on: June 18, 2010, 02:46:28 PM »

Of course you will! Why on earth would actual knowledge be of interest to you?

The intellectual "integrity" of the uneducated atheist is a sorrowful thing to behold.

So much learning, so little knowledge. Poor Mags.

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Of course you will! Why on earth would actual knowledge be of interest to you?

The intellectual "integrity" of the uneducated atheist is a sorrowful thing to behold.

So much learning, so little knowledge. Poor Mags.

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So much dishonesty. So little knowledge. Poor atheist . Why are you so proud of your refusal to learn? Most people have the good sense to be ashamed when they expose themselves in public.
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« Reply #28 on: June 18, 2010, 02:49:39 PM »

LOL
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« Reply #29 on: June 18, 2010, 02:51:10 PM »

That is why this topic is called "Sayings Not in The Bible"

As Derowr so aptly stated, 
 

Seems today even "i'm ok. you're ok" would be thought to be 'biblical' by many ;-(
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