Do heroes exist? Are they unique individuals? Or is it a matter of timing?

[leese]

Excellent read. Shawna, thanks.

[Shawna]

 

Anything to help your right-brain-function therapy....

[leese]

Anything to help your right-brain-function therapy....

LOL!my divided attention is next to nil ATM.  My reading focus is doing OK. Just don't ask me to count how many times 'the' appears in that story. Serious torture by tedium in my therapy sessions. But they say I gotta do it so I'll be able to juggle multiple things in my head again; like driving in traffic...

[Shawna]

But they say I gotta do it so I'll be able to juggle multiple things in my head again; like driving in traffic...

I hadn't thought about that.... but I can see the problem, now that you point it out.  How many dozen things do I do at once while driving, not counting child management?  All of a sudden, I am a little intimidated to try to drive.....

[leese]

But they say I gotta do it so I'll be able to juggle multiple things in my head again; like driving in traffic...

I hadn't thought about that.... but I can see the problem, now that you point it out.  How many dozen things do I do at once while driving, not counting child management?  All of a sudden, I am a little intimidated to try to drive.....

I wasn't very good at it before. The rule in my car when Leighann was little, was no loud talking. but  girls can have that high pitch thing sometimes that would send a trucker off the road in distraction.

[nateswift]

nice and i didnt know black quakers exist

They are not particularly common, to our great shame.  Quakers were willing to work to free black slaves, but they weren't as willing to accept them into membership as Friends.  If they had been willing to accept black people as members immediately following the Civil War, Quakerism might be a predominantly black denomination now.

Quakers are a largely black denomination.......  It's just that almost all of them are in Africa.  Want a current hero?  See if you can find out anything about David Niyonzima  I'll look that up and edit to help if I can find it. (had it right the first time and edited to make it wrong before looking it up... oy)

[Shawna]

^  Thanks for the correction, Nate!  I had temporary brain-fade.  You're absolutely right, the majority of Quakers in the world live in Africa.

I think I had a chance to listen to David Niyonzima talk about the reconciliation work he was doing at an FWCC gathering.  If it wasn't him, it was someone who works closely with him.  Amazing amazing stuff.

[nateswift]

^  Thanks for the correction, Nate!  I had temporary brain-fade.  You're absolutely right, the majority of Quakers in the world live in Africa.

I think I had a chance to listen to David Niyonzima talk about the reconciliation work he was doing at an FWCC gathering.  If it wasn't him, it was someone who works closely with him.  Amazing amazing stuff.

Might have been Adrian (lost his last name for the moment), another amazing fellow.  I highly recommend Peggy Parson's new book. "So There I Was... In Africa."  Peggy is a therapist who helped David learn to apply the labaratory psychology he was learning to the situations he was facing.  Incidentally, she is also one of my heroes.

[Shawna]

Peggy Senger Parsons is wonderful.  She is also one of my heroes, and not just because she says she loves me!  She is a fabulous writer.

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[Glostik88]

What is a hero?

A woman is irriated at some obvious injustices in an election. She quietly goes to rally of protests, wanting to see what's going on and wishing for the results of said election to be honest. Apparently she has no preferences for the results of the election. She is not particularly "reform minded per se" we are told. A guard targets her. Pulls the triggers, She slowly dies. As her country people hear her story, they are angry. Why?  Her killer was caught by the protesters, his identity card taken but allowed to walk away alive. She is dead. Hero? Or ...?

A man survives the halocaust. He was a doctor, because of this, he had some value to his captures. This helped him live longer. Or perhaps that person was healthier? Or perhaps he hid out in the woods, perhaps resisting and perhaps not. He may have done things to survive that he'd not ordinarily have done and some of those things may have allowed survival? Hero? Or not hero?

A man is killed in the halocaust. Perhaps weak, perhaps that person didn't look out for himself enough, perhaps, it was luck of the draw? Hero? Or not hero?

A warrior risks himself, perhaps he survives, perhaps he is killed, but manages to kill more enemy soldiers or to save his unit in some way at risk to himself.

A fire occurs ...

Too many stories.

Martyrs, heroes or just people that happened to be at the wrong place at the right time?

What is a hero to you? What makes a martyr? Is this a good thing.

A hero is one who overcomes himself. (an ubermensch) From Thus Spoke Zarathustra.

[SkunkButt]

What makes a martyr

Death.


I like what Glosstik88 wrote. In order to understand how difficult it is to change others try changing yourself first.